{"id":92171,"date":"2021-11-11T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2021-11-11T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pan-african-music.com\/?p=92171"},"modified":"2021-11-10T19:04:50","modified_gmt":"2021-11-10T17:04:50","slug":"the-many-voices-of-herbie-tsoaeli","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pan-african-music.com\/en\/the-many-voices-of-herbie-tsoaeli\/","title":{"rendered":"The many voices of Herbie Tsoaeli"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">Herbie Tsoaeli is a discrete, yet key figure of South African jazz. His debut album <em>African Time<\/em> was the 2013 Best Jazz Album at the South African Music Award, followed by the beautiful <em><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/album\/0Nm6Bc09bsazARFqzfemzr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">At This Point in Time (Voices in Volume)<\/a><\/em> in 2021. The man has played with all the greatest \u201c<em>elders<\/em>\u201d who contributed to the formidable energy and creativity of Mzansi-bred jazz music: \u201cBra\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/pan-african-music.com\/en\/tag\/hugh-masekela\/\">Hugh<\/a> (Masekela), \u201cBra\u201d Louis (Moholo), \u201cBra\u201d Zim (Ngqawana)&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When we meet him in a Johannesburg caf\u00e9 for a discussion, it becomes clear that music is an integral part of his being. His words are as dense as his jazz, inhabited by epiphanies, surprising connections and unexpected poetry. He speaks like he composes, different ideas and voices colliding and intertwining like the \u201cjazz moya\u201d he plays, influenced by spirits.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>\u201c<em>I was brought up in my grandmother\u2019s house, in Cape Town. Ancestors have these clan names like Bakwena, or Bafokeng\u2026&nbsp; These are voices I used to hear in my grandmother\u2019s house. It was happening, I could hear those people<\/em>.<em> These voices, they get translated into the music I do. And the music I do has been translated to the elders out there, for those who came before us. I have some ancestral umbrella protecting me.<\/em>\u201d&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Cutting his teeth in the early 80\u2019s in the Nyanga East township (he prefers the word \u201clocation\u201d, a township being a \u201c<em>town with many ships<\/em>\u201d for him), he is a self-taught bassist, pianist, composer and arranger. His eyes light up when he remembers all the musicians he \u201c<em>had<\/em>\u201d at home, spinning on a disc: <a href=\"https:\/\/pan-african-music.com\/en\/tag\/john-coltrane\/\">Coltrane<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/pan-african-music.com\/en\/tag\/miles-davis\/\">Miles Davis<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/pan-african-music.com\/en\/tag\/blue-note\/?_per_page=17\">Blue Notes<\/a>, Mahotella Queens\u2026 His \u201c<em>selling whatever she could sell<\/em>\u201d grandmother wanted him to be responsible; he became a jazz musician.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>\u201cThere was so much happening in the location. Next door was a Zionist church with their loud prayers. On the other side they were traditional healers, shouting. Then our grandfathers used to have Zulu, Xhosa or Sotho ceremonial stuff, with bands. And the location was a centre of jazz. That sound was all around me, and I liked being in that environment. I didn&#8217;t buy my first instruments ! There were schools in my community that used to lend them. And that\u2019s how I became involved.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1010\" height=\"505\" src=\"https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/tsoaelibanner-1010x505.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92206\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/tsoaelibanner-1010x505.jpeg 1010w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/tsoaelibanner-759x380.jpeg 759w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/tsoaelibanner-1440x720.jpeg 1440w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/tsoaelibanner-661x331.jpeg 661w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/tsoaelibanner-465x233.jpeg 465w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/tsoaelibanner-375x188.jpeg 375w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/tsoaelibanner.jpeg 1500w\" sizes=\"(min-width:1010px) 759px,100vw\" loading=\"lazy\" \/><figcaption>Herbie Tsoaeli<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>In terms of jazz, Cape Town was like&#8230; New York City. Let alone the money we were getting for our craft\u2026 the spirit and the energy were there. We would often play for nothing, just for the love of music. We would play a gig that would only pay our cab back. I played with the elders, like Bra Winston [\u201cMankunku\u201d Ngozi]. I wouldn\u2019t even be paid, and I\u2019m not saying anyone robbed me, because we all knew what we were building together. I played with Abdullah Ibrahim, beautiful\u2026 Zim Ngqawana, incredible\u2026 Louis Moholo, wow !\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Indeed, there was Sophiatown in Johannesburg, and then there was Cape Town. The city was a \u201c<em>heartbeat<\/em>\u201d and jazz was a war cry against the daily horrors of Apartheid. However, this did not stop him from moving to Johannesburg in 1995, a turning point for the entire country. Herbie had to adapt to the City of Gold and the intense pace of a new era. Perhaps he longs for Table Mountain and the Atlantic Ocean when he speaks about how rapid things are nowadays : \u201c<em>You have to follow robots, go to departure and arrival time, then there are estimation times\u2026This is not African Time! And in music, I don\u2019t want people to emphasize on time\u201d.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>His years of playing with the greatest in Johannesburg led him to an Award winning album. Composition comes easily to him, as he takes note of everything: what the elders tell him, what the kids tell him\u2026. \u201c<em>even the <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bergie\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>bergie<\/em><\/a><em>!<\/em>\u201d. He also has a facility for translating his experiences into music, whether it be the beatings of his grandmother when he skipped church, or the voices he used to hear in his Nyanga room.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Siwa Sivuka\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/BpyjtlfJVoI?feature=oembed&#038;autoplay=1\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption>Siwa Sivuka<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>\u201cWhen I play with my musicians, I also want them to speak to their elders. I connect with my spirits, with my grandmothers, and I want them to connect with their spirits and their grandmothers. With all these voices connecting together, it becomes Voices In Volumes.<\/em><br><em>And I know what I should translate or not. My ear is selective of what I listen to. You see these places where they produce bottles or manufactures? They have mechanisms to reject the bad elements on specific channels. That\u2019s my ear with sound.\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>After a life of jazz, it is still jazz that drives him. Outside of the United States, he is convinced that South African jazz is the most distinguishable, and he is excited about the new upcoming scene, that he sees \u201c<em>growing, growing and growing<\/em>\u201d. He shares their enthusiasm and excitement when he performs live with them, an experience he still struggles to put words to (\u201c<em>I can\u2019t explain the feeling of being on stage\u2026 electrical, spiritual?<\/em>\u201d). While his ideas continue to flow, there is one thing he does not know: why jazz is so important in his country. All he can tell us is this :&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>\u201cOur ancestors have many Gods. So I\u2019ve always been dreaming of a chapel. But I guess, any club, anywhere in this world, is gonna be a chapel for me\u201d.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/herbietsoaeli.bandcamp.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">At this Point in Time: Voices in Volumes<\/a><\/em> by Herbie Tsoaeli, still available.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:50px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"709\" height=\"709\" src=\"https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Herbie-Tsoaeli-At-this-point-in-time.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-92179\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Herbie-Tsoaeli-At-this-point-in-time.jpg 709w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Herbie-Tsoaeli-At-this-point-in-time-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Herbie-Tsoaeli-At-this-point-in-time-661x661.jpg 661w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Herbie-Tsoaeli-At-this-point-in-time-465x465.jpg 465w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Herbie-Tsoaeli-At-this-point-in-time-375x375.jpg 375w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Herbie-Tsoaeli-At-this-point-in-time-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Herbie-Tsoaeli-At-this-point-in-time-85x85.jpg 85w, https:\/\/pan-african-music-production.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Herbie-Tsoaeli-At-this-point-in-time-73x73.jpg 73w\" sizes=\"(min-width:1010px) 759px,100vw\" loading=\"lazy\" \/><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For Jazzfest Berlin &#8211; Johannesburg, PAM met the Award winning South African bassist, as well as the spirits he carries. 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